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Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Dear All,
I am on an urgent research about the mutual influence of this issue.
I have to explore historical documents to validate mutual influence in garden design. Or compare and contrast between the function of the palace and pavilion in Islamic culture & the villa in relation to the garden in European culture.
I would be thankful of your contributes.

Morvarid
Morvarid Khorramirad
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Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
al hambra in spain to modern times,gardens have cultural impact,true,islamic as well rennaissance gardens have evolved with time,compaing them from functional,cultural,climate,foliage and flowering as well pavillions and use of flowing water should be v. intersting....needs to upload lot of time....i mean wast canvas....pls.get us a thread in such a way that,becomes easy to weave and buield the tapastry...regards.
Dushyant Nathwani
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Morvarid, The Alhambra in Granada has several Moorish courtyard gardens and the Generalife, a wonderful garden on a nearby hillside. I also visited the gardens of the Alcazar in Seville.
Frank John Snelling
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Thanks guys,
but in fact I am aware of all Persian Gardens and Renaissance Gardens instances and their features separately. I need to investigate about if they have had influence on each other during the time or their evolution is the reflect of their political, social, etc. changes.
Morvarid Khorramirad
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Morvarid, Okay, then you need to research into the cross-cultural exchanges between the Moors and the Christians in Spain and the Moors in North Africa and Italy.

For Spain there is a two volume work published by Brill (Nederlands / Holland) entitled "The Legacy of Muslim Spain" by Jayyusi". And from my own research on "Art and Architecture in the Medieveil Era" it is clear that many literary works in Latin and Greek found by Moslems in the Middle East (Eastern Meditterranean lands) were either translated into Arabic and later arrived in Moorish Spain where they were re-translated back into Latin and Greek. For myself, I would dearly like to know what influence this translation and retranslation had upon these ancient literary works.

Regarding Italy and the cross-cultural transmission of data from Moorish North Africa, the so-called "Fibonacci Series" comes from an Arabic work on Algebra and of course the numbers (0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) we use in the West today came from the Arabic.
Frank John Snelling
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Frank, I'm thankful for explanations and resources. It is wide research indeed.
Besides, I would like to clarify the origin of Algebra, which comes from Persian not Arab. "Al-Khwarizmi" is consider the original inventor of algebra, although his work is based on older Indian or Greek sources.
However, Persian nation became Muslim but the ethnic is different.

Regards,
Morvarid Khorramirad
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Morvarid, True, you are right about the Persian origin of Algebra. Please forgive my lapse in memory. I forgot that not everything written in Arabic is from an Arab culture.

And if memory serves, Omar Khayyam was both poet and mathematician.
Frank John Snelling
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Hi Frank, your information is impressing. yes, Khayyam is one of the Persian genius in 11th century.
thanks
Morvarid Khorramirad
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
true,poetry and geometry has rythem and both effect perception in depth,true omar khayyam dwelled in both,no doubt ginious.
Dushyant Nathwani
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
Dushyant, Morvarid, Omar Khayyam as a poet and mathemetician was a "polymath" (a person of varied learning; great scholar). But today there is an artificial separation of art and science as though art and science do not mix.

And I learnt something today, because "polymath" comes from the Greek for poly (which I usually translate as many) and math comes from the Greek manthano = learn. So the term "math" should refer to all learning and not just numbers.
Frank John Snelling
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
franck,enlightened.....keep it up.
Dushyant Nathwani
Islamic Gardens & Renaissance Gardens
I think, you can also see the contribution of ziryab to the organization of garden in spain. it is was genious in the time. though, I agreed that it depend on the state of mind of the owned of the villa that decide what kind of garden he or she wants and what is her relationship to nature. may be you should see if there might be a special consideration of plants in islam and what it induce so that muslims were keen to have a garden. good luck.
Magyda Cherradi
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